Comments on: School fingerprinting :: Just a bit of fun! http://www.naseem.name/education/school-fingerprinting-just-a-bit-of-fun/ serious games // web application development // vr guru Sat, 31 Jul 2010 01:48:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: Andy http://www.naseem.name/education/school-fingerprinting-just-a-bit-of-fun/#comment-1471 Andy Wed, 25 Apr 2007 08:04:20 +0000 http://www.naseem.name/education/school-fingerprinting-just-a-bit-of-fun/#comment-1471 I've been away for a while but I had no idea this kind of shit was going on. Sad indeed. Confirms much of what a friend recently said about the uk after moving back. Passports expire after 10 years, email addresses come and go, PIN numbers can be changed (although if I ever change mine I won't be able to use any of my plastic cards again as I'm too old to remember a different number...), but the one thing you can't change is your fingerprints. A few years ago (post 9-11), being a Brit, I had to give mine to the US immigration service just to visit Seattle. I regret it to this day. Good luck with the fight, although I expect you'll be banged up as a dissident by the thought police. Isn't it ironic that when you complain about things like this they think *you* are the one suggesting something crazy? Wouldn't happen in Star Trek y'know... I’ve been away for a while but I had no idea this kind of shit was going on.
Sad indeed.
Confirms much of what a friend recently said about the uk after moving back.

Passports expire after 10 years, email addresses come and go, PIN numbers can be changed (although if I ever change mine I won’t be able to use any of my plastic cards again as I’m too old to remember a different number…), but the one thing you can’t change is your fingerprints.

A few years ago (post 9-11), being a Brit, I had to give mine to the US immigration service just to visit Seattle. I regret it to this day.

Good luck with the fight, although I expect you’ll be banged up as a dissident by the thought police.

Isn’t it ironic that when you complain about things like this they think *you* are the one suggesting something crazy?

Wouldn’t happen in Star Trek y’know…

]]> By: Taz http://www.naseem.name/education/school-fingerprinting-just-a-bit-of-fun/#comment-1248 Taz Wed, 04 Apr 2007 14:44:56 +0000 http://www.naseem.name/education/school-fingerprinting-just-a-bit-of-fun/#comment-1248 Well, our local MP (Labour) has just written to me and "shares the horror at the prospect of children being fingerprinted". He then goes onto say that he has now written to the Director of Education in Kirklees, enclosing a copy of my letter, and will get back to me with any developments. The head teacher at the school has yet to reply to any of my queries, but then that's not surprising as I doubt she actually has the knowledge to answer any of the points raised! Well, our local MP (Labour) has just written to me and “shares the horror at the prospect of children being fingerprinted”.

He then goes onto say that he has now written to the Director of Education in Kirklees, enclosing a copy of my letter, and will get back to me with any developments.

The head teacher at the school has yet to reply to any of my queries, but then that’s not surprising as I doubt she actually has the knowledge to answer any of the points raised!

]]> By: David http://www.naseem.name/education/school-fingerprinting-just-a-bit-of-fun/#comment-1242 David Tue, 03 Apr 2007 22:12:18 +0000 http://www.naseem.name/education/school-fingerprinting-just-a-bit-of-fun/#comment-1242 If it's really "just a bit of fun", why did the school go to great lengths in their original letter to stress that in their view it was in accordance with European Human Rights legislation? And how on earth would a primary school teacher know that? I wonder who told her. It certainly wasn't the DfES or the Information Commissioner, for they haven't as yet issued any guidance on the issue. In fact, leading barristers I have consulted with take quite the opposite view. And as for the rest, Kim Cameron, who is Architect of Identity and Access in the Connected Systems Division at Microsoft, states that "it is absolutely premature to begin using “conventional biometrics” in schools". (see http://www.identityblog.com/?p=733 ) I wonder how the head teacher would respond to that? Or whether the governors have been consulted? If it’s really “just a bit of fun”, why did the school go to great lengths in their original letter to stress that in their view it was in accordance with European Human Rights legislation? And how on earth would a primary school teacher know that? I wonder who told her. It certainly wasn’t the DfES or the Information Commissioner, for they haven’t as yet issued any guidance on the issue. In fact, leading barristers I have consulted with take quite the opposite view.

And as for the rest, Kim Cameron, who is Architect of Identity and Access in the Connected Systems Division at Microsoft, states that “it is absolutely premature to begin using “conventional biometrics” in schools”. (see http://www.identityblog.com/?p=733 )

I wonder how the head teacher would respond to that? Or whether the governors have been consulted?

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